So you want to be an INFLUENCER?

*Intro*
Kristy: Do you hate throwing up? Same!

Deb: You should have, like, a box of saltines in your bag.

Kristy: This is why I could never be an influencer. I could never be serious! Okay, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.

Deb: Hello? You can’t hear me. So… it’s just, I’m doing a test like you’re wearing headphones… Oh my goodness.

Kritsy: We’re calling it good!

Deb: Okay, I’m just going to preface this by saying I’ve been up since 3:30 this morning for no reason.

Kristy: Yeah?

Deb: So, we’ll see what comes out of my mouth.

Kristy: Okay.

Deb: And how fast or slow.

Kristy: Yeah.

Deb: There might be a lot of buffering!

Kristy: Yeah. You know what? I’m just glad that you’re here with me today. I’m just happy you’re here and our phones are silenced and I hope Hailey shut the door.

Deb: My phone is always silenced. I never have my ring on.

Kristy: That-That is the ongoing question of everyone in the office. Who… Who, uh… I don’t know where to put this…

Deb: I’m just going to play with my popsocket, so hopefully that doesn’t… I fidget…

Kristy: I’m back with my emotional support lint roller, because, by popular demand, everyone seemed to like that this was my, uh, emotional support weapon of choice.

Deb: You know what’s funny to me is every time I’ve seen you lint rolling on the podcast, it’s like you can’t see the lint.

Kristy: I know.

Deb: It’s completely unnecessary!

Kristy: I’ve gotten those comments too, like what-what is it you’re lint rolling? And these pants have none on it at all.

Deb: There’s…

Kristy: What you guys can’t see is that everything is caked in cat hair.

Deb: Nope, can’t see it at all.

Kristy: Maybe that’s because I’m a master editor and,

Deb: That could be!

Kristy: I edited it all out. Maybe it’s just because I need self soothing of lint rolling.

Deb: That-that is okay! I-I feel like I need to hold the pillow…

Kristy: This is just going to become my, um, this is going to become my signature prop.

Deb: I can’t get comfortable… Okay… Oh I like…

Kristy: This will be my, uh, cover art.

Deb: That’s your prop. I’ll… mine can be all of the drinks that I travel with. Sorry, that was really bad, I wasn’t talking to the microphone.

Kristy: Okay.

Deb: Anybody need a beverage?

Kristy: Going back to the Pink Yeti, and I don’t know if I’ve talked about this on the podcast… By the way, Deb’s here with me today!

Deb: Hi!

Kristy: Welcome, Deb. So glad you’re back. Uh, Pink Yeti story.

Deb: Pink Yeti.

Kristy: I don’t know if we’ve talked about this before but, um, when we ordered Yetis for the… when I ordered Yetis for the team cause I-I do everything,

Deb: Kristy orders all the stuff for us.

Kristy: I do everything for this team.

Deb: She does!

Kristy: Um,

Deb: She’s amazing!

Kristy: I-I ordered all of us blue, cause seapoint blue,

Deb: Seapoint blue.

Kristy: seapoint blue for the team, and then I was like, Hey guys, so, because I’m the special one, I’m ordering myself—alone—a pink one. Everyone was on board with this. Everyone was like, As you should!

Deb: I will say, when I saw-when I was reading through the chat and I saw that you ordered a pink one, my first thought was, awe I wish I had known that was an option…

Kristy: It was not… I was like, I was very much in princess mode,

Deb: I want a pink one too!

Kristy: and I was like, listen as the queen here—I was very much in princess mode—was like I get the, I get to be the one who has the pink one. Everyone else is getting blue. And, um,

Deb: And then?

Kristy: so, then when the order came, um, they gave us like four messed up ones, like I forget if they were dented or scratched or something and I was like, this simply will not do. These were very expensive and, uh, they shan’t be messed up.

Deb: And they shan’t be messed up!

Kristy: And, anytime we get any kind of t-shirt that’s messed up, I go into full Karen mode. As I should! And I’m like, nuh-uh send more, fix them, and everyone hates me for it, and I’m not sorry, and so,

Deb: We love her for it.

Kristy: Yeah. So, I contacted them and was like, Hey, pictures of your scratches, dents, whatever. And then, because of that, they—one of the one of the ones that was messed up was my pink one—and so they had to send us another pink one. And I’m like, You know what, who needs… We have this other pink one, Deb should have the other pink one. And I gave her the good new pink one.

Deb: She gave me the good one and kept the damaged one,

Kristy: I have.

Deb: How awesome is she?!

Kristy: So, I’d like to stand up here and praise myself for being so giving and loving,

Deb: That she gave me…

Kristy: after I was a spoiled brat.

Deb: That’s how you reconciled to be-being the spoiled brat!

Kristy: Yes, exactly. The universe was like, um, no.

Deb: Check…

Kristy: You know who really deserves the nice pink one, not you, Deb!

Deb: And here it is and-and look it’s like-it’s like it was meant to be.

Kristy: It really was. So, I’m happy to share my pink spotlight with Deb.

Deb: That is not made for a left-handed person.

Kristy: Yeah.

Deb: I will tell you that because the handle shows yourself the logo,

Kristy: Yeah.

Deb: not the world.

Kristy: Yeah, that’s a good point. I-I wouldn’t have thought of that.

Deb: You only think of it if you’re left-handed. Lefties notice everything.

Kristy: I guess so. Another-another way that I’m privileged in this world. Yeah, I mean, I’m a right-handed white woman so I have a lot of privilege. Yeah. Anyway, uh, today we’re talking about… we-we picked a topic that I thought would be fun for us, uh, influencing! Uh, this I thought would be good because I feel like as a girl of the internet who likes to shop,

Deb: Be careful with how you say that…

Kristy: Listen!

Deb: It sounds weird… As a woman of the internet.

Kristy: So many things I want to say.

Deb: Let’s just cut that.

Kristy: No, no, no! We’re not cutting anything!

Deb: Nothing’s getting cut.

Kristy: This is a brand new podcast. I’m not cutting anything! Listen… as a person who likes to go on the internet and shop, is that better for you?

Deb: Yes!

Kristy: I’m easily influenced to purchase things. Is that true of you?

Deb: Yeah.

Kristy: Okay, so, I thought it’d be fun to talk about our favorite influencers. And if you were an influencer, what would you influence and why?

Deb: Oh my goodness, I didn’t prepare thoughts for that…

Kristy: Okay, I’ll go first then. Um, so there’s this Tik Tok account that I… there’s a couple Tik Tok accounts I follow…

Deb: I’m going to just interrupt you by saying, I’m not on Tik Tok…

Kristy: Okay, so this will be really good and a learning experience for you.

Deb: I can’t, my-my brain does not like Tik Tok.

Kristy: Okay, tell me.

Deb: I don’t know, it’s just not… I-I’m used to how in-I’m totally all about Instagram. Like, that’s my jam. That’s where I spend my time. I’ve tried Tik Tok,

Kristy: Reels? Are… You’re a reel swiper.

Deb: All of it.

Kristy: Okay

Deb: All of it. Um, I’ve-I’ve downloaded Tik Tok several times, spent five minutes on it, I’m like I don’t understand this…

Kristy: It’s because your algorithm is not set up.

Deb: Something about it-it doesn’t click with my brain, and I can’t figure out how to use it in a way that doesn’t make me want to throw my phone. So, I-I will occasionally download it and like all of Seapoint stuff,

Kristy: Awe!

Deb: That has been posted.

Kristy: Awe.

Deb: Or I think… and that’s,

Kristy: Learn from her!

Deb: and that’s really it.

Kristy: Yeah

Deb: Because, because everyone who posts on TikTok, a lot of that stuff gets transferred over to or shared on Instagram. Not all of it, but a lot of it does.

Kristy: Yeah.

Deb: so, I’m like if I’m finding people I like and I’m wasting time already on instagram, why do i need another platform that’s going to like… if I take the time to learn it then it’s just going to suck my time more and then I’m going to get nothing done.

Kristy: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, it is a big time suck.

Deb: Yeah. So, tell me about Tik Tok,

Kristy: Um, well couple accounts I follow—and I’m going to lead by this by saying I’m not sponsoring anybody, this is just my personal like what I like—what I like,

Deb: This is not a sponsored podcast.

Kristy: Not a sponsor. If you want us to, watch this podcast.

Deb: Comfort. We should have worn Comfort today.

Kristy: Oh dang it!

Deb: I thought of it when I was driving here I’m like, we should have worn our comfort hoodies!

Kristy: So, this is a great example. We could be influencers for comfort. We tried for a second,

Deb: But now it’s going to get too warm.

Kristy: tried.

Deb: You really can only wear them in the dead of winter around here, cause they’re so heavy and hot.

Kristy: Yeah… They are. Yeah, they are.

Deb: But I love them.

Kristy: Comfort,

Deb: Comfort.

Kristy: if you want to sponsor us still,

Deb: We would love to be influencers for you.

Kristy: actually, they’re not just-they’re not just sweat clothes! They have–-and I would love to try them—they have like what looks like really soft like pajama sets, and like they have stuff besides just sweat sets. My hair is at a long length where it gets stuck behind me and then my-my head gets stuck. It’s making me a lunatic…

Deb: If you’re watching, for those of you who are just listening, go to YouTube and watch the video and see Christy squirming in her seat.

Kristy: If you are not watching on YouTube,

Deb: What are you even doing,

Kristy: what are you even doing?

Deb: with your life. You’re wasting your time. Just listen to this,

Kristy: I’m getting more unhinged in the editing and,

Deb: YouTube is where it’s at.

Kristy: We are getting more unhinged with how we’re sitting in our seats, like I’m… my episode with Bill I was just like… yeah, anyway, um, what was I saying? Okay, Comfort sets. So,

Deb: You were-you were saying Tik Tok and…

Kristy: Yeah, anyway, um, this is going to be,

Deb: Back around!

Kristy: we’re both gonna be squirrel brains.

Deb: Take it back around!

Kristy: We’re both gonna be squirrel brains. Um, so, Tik Tok. I-A couple of things I like on Tik Tok is the stock, like, stock-my-purse people with me. So, what that is is basically these girlies that are like, we need to have the like every item that could possibly exist for all emergency scenarios in our purse at all times, and I am obsessed with it which is why I’ve become that person. Like, do you need a premoistened Q-tip? Yep, I’ve got it. Like, do you need WD40 in a miniature size? I’ve got it. Like, do you need an emergency armpit sweat wipe? Got it. Everything you could ever want is like in my purse.

Deb: I would like…

Kristy: Stock my purse with me!

Deb: I would like for you to explain to me the benefit of a premoistened Q-tip, because everything else you said I was like, okay, okay. Why can’t you just have a regular Q-tip? Cause if you have a water bottle with you, you can moisten it yourself.

Kristy: Oh, I should have planned better and like brought all of these things. Although I could get my purse right now and like unpack my purse a little bit. I should do that. Premoistened Q-tip first. Ugh, I have some!

Deb: I’m not using one, I can tell you that right now. If someone hands me a Q-tip and it’s wet, I want to know where it’s been.

Kristy: Okay, we’re gonna get unhinged with this.

Deb: We’re getting unhinged. Oh my goodness… She’s brought both the bags.

Kristy: Okay, here’s the problem,

Deb: Oh boy, both the bags are…

Kristy: here’s the problem I-I have, I have so much stuff but I have tiny purse.

Deb: You have more stuff in that big bag that is about to dump all over the floor, by the way.

Kristy: I lost my emotional support lint roller…

Deb: It’s-It’s stuck to your purse. It’s on the floor.

Kristy: Okay, let’s start with tiny purse.

Deb: There’s more in there than I ever had in like a diaper bag with a small child! So, I don’t understand, and this is for someone who comes with multiple bags everywhere too.

Kristy: This is my free Victoria’s Secret,

Deb: Love it.

Kristy: tote that I got for buying bras. Okay, tiny purse. Let’s settle back in.

Deb: Hold on, because both of my bags that I have with me today fit this conversation. Not the contents but the bags themselves. You go through your purse, I will be right back now.

Kristy: When you come back will you hand me my emotional support lint roller? Thank you. Okay, I’m going to introduce everyone to my bags while you’re doing that. Okay, Okay. So, because—I’m nervous about this mic situation now cause I whacked it so hard—because I have a tiny really pretentious purse, I have to carry two bags because it won’t all fit in tiny bag. Okay, but I’m prepared for all things at all times. Like do you need every size band-aid that exists? Because I’ve got it. Do you need an alcohol prep pad? Because I’ve got it. Do you need a spray… do you need a spray hand sanitizer? Because I’ve got it. Um, do you need bag bomb? Got it. Um, do you need some mace? Because I’ve got that. Every medication that exists, and Q-tips, um, or tissues. I’ve got eye drops, um, but on a tiny–on like a, um, that’s like practical things that everyone has. I assume.

Deb: Sure, in some form.

Kristy: I don’t want your bags to block that camera, though. That’s my only fear.

Deb: I will put them down here.

Kristy: Okay, on like a pack-my-purse-with-me situation… Okay, here’s like-here’s like, do you need a full body wipe? I have packs of these! They’re caffeine wipes. They’re energizing. These are armpit wipes.

Deb: And how many of your Celsius have you drank before you rub yourself down with a caffeine wipe?

Krity: Here are my pre… here are my premoistened Q-tips. Here’s-these have come in handy so many times.

Deb: Okay, tell me what you’ve used those for.

Kristy: Okay, so, for instance, last summer at the beach um my-these like girls I had just met—and this was like a really exciting way to make friends with them—um they ran into the ocean and one of them had just gotten their ears pierced and they went in the salt water and their ear was like all irritated, because they had just gotten a piercing, they weren’t supposed to go in salt water and I was like, girl I got you. And I had these, and she was able to like clear her ear piercing with this.

Deb: What are they premoistened with? Do you know?

Kristy: Um… I don’t remember…

Deb: That seems to be a very necessary piece of information to know what it is safe to then put them on or in! Is it water? Is it peroxide? Is it alcohol? Is it…

Kristy: I feel like it’s,

Deb: I don’t understand.

Kristy: You could smell it and then you would know.

Deb: If a stranger came up to me at the beach and offered me a premoistened Q-tip I might be skeptical. I might say, I’m just going to dump some of my water bottle on my ear and call it good.

Kristy: Bad news, they’re hardly wet anymore. Oh they’re not… Well-

Deb: That’s like the mom seeing like the brown something on her kid’s leg and be like, oh… oh no that’s chocolate. Okay.

Kristy: Moving on cause you’ve really de-in–you’ve de-influenced everyone for my Q-tips. Okay, flossers. Tiny toothbrushes. Important for your teeth! Okay, um, moving on. I have so many of those… So many of those. Um, puke bags.

Deb: Do you… do you get sick often on the go?

Kristy: No, but I’m terrified of it. I’m terrified of it. Okay, I’d like to influence you all now, is… do you hate throwing up? Same!

Deb: Is that going to stop you from throwing up, though? You should have like a box of saltines in your bag.

Kristy: This is why I could never be an influencer. I could never be serious! Okay, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. I… I hate throwing up. Okay? Throwing up in these is, like, a pleasure. Like, I hate throwing up and ever since I threw up in one of these I’m like, I love it.

Deb: Okay, so here, we’re going to bring you back around on influencers, and who you believe and who is full of BS.

Kristy: I mean it, I mean it! Because I’m not making money on this!

Deb: There is nothing that you can throw up into,

Kristy: Listen to me,

Deb: that’s going to make throwing up a pleasure.

Kristy: Listen to me, Deb.

Deb: See, I think you’re-you’re full of it.

Kristy: I’m not making money on this. And I’m telling you, anytime I am like, I should influence these for sure, okay, if I was an influencer, it’d be for these puke bags, because I… anytime I’ve thrown up in these I’ve always been like, wow that was the best throwing up experience of my life. I mean it! And so I have these every… I have one in my bedside table. I have like 50 in my car. I-I hand them out at parties because I’m just like… as a phobia of throwing up, because what happens is… okay, the problem-the problem with throwing up is the fear, the smell, and the, okay we’re not going to get into any of this. We’re going to gross everybody out. They’re going to leave. Okay, I’m just like it-it happens so far away from you and then it’s over and then you just throw this in the trash and then it’s done. Okay, so if, or anyone throwing up next to you, you don’t even know it happens! Buy them. You’ll love it. You’ll, you will come back here. Buy them. Come back here, and thank me and tell me I was right. Okay, everybody?

Deb: I guarantee there will be,

Kristy: I’m sending Deb home with one of these.

Deb: there will be exactly zero comments that say, you are right, throwing up in that bag really was just the most joyful thing I did all day. Here’s the thing, I also—this is—I don’t know how we got here but I’m going with,

Kristy: As my guest,

Deb: I also hate throwing up. I haven’t in over 20 years. I just don’t.

Kristy: As my guest,

Deb: I would keep saltines in my bag instead of that.

Kristy: As my guest, I would like to send you home today with premoistened, dry Q-tips and a throw up bag. That’s what I’m sending you home with today.

Deb: Thank god she already got me the pink Yeti!

Kristy: Moving on, um, I would like to influence you on these nose clamps. So, what they are—this is a really exciting, um, what’s in my purse with me podcast.

Deb: Yeah.

Kristy: and I think if people-

Deb: Kevin, if you’re still watching-

Kristy: Okay, so what these are is they’re smelly and they’re nose rings, basically, and you put them on your nose like a nose ring. Can you see it?

Deb: Yeah.

Kristy: It’s see-through.

Deb: I can.

Kristy: Oh, this one’s yummy! This one is… lemon-lime. What do you think it’s for?

Deb: I can’t think of a scenario where I would put that on my nose.

Kristy: Really? Okay, so it’s essential oils. So, it could be anything from nausea to if you’re working a smelly job or in a smelly location… So, like nurses,

Deb: Okay.

Kristy: or bus drivers or teachers or I don’t know what else… But I got them with the intention of nausea like in the car or I’m going to wear these on the airplane when I go to France.

Deb: I can-I can see that.

Kristy: Yeah. Are you influenced? You can’t share them. You shouldn’t share them.

Deb: We’re stating the obvious.

Kristy: You should not share them. You shouldn’t share them. They’re a little expensive, I think they’re worth trying. They come in a pack of four with different scents.

Deb: Okay.

Kristy: I’m not a good influencer, I’m learning that.

Deb: Well, I think, so here’s-here’s what,

Kristy: Do you have criticism for me?

Deb: You need to consider, is how much do people really need what you’re trying to share with them? If you’re going to take the most obscure thing to be used in very specific scenarios like, hey if you’re ever on the beach,

Kristy: Yeah.

Deb: and you accidentally go in the salt water,

Kristy: Yeah.

Deb: and you’ve just pierced your ear,

Kristy: Yeah, yeah.

Deb: then you will need this, but if you don’t fall into that category—which is probably over 99% of the population ever—that’s not going to speak to them.

Kristy: Okay, I get it.

Deb: You need to know your audience, and what do more of them want.

Kristy: Deb, I think you know a lot more about influencing than you’ve let on.

Deb: Well, this is the thing when you said… while you while you repack your bag,

Kristy: Well I-I’m not done unpacking.

Deb: She’s not done. Do we want to see more?

Kristy: I just have a couple more things. I have,

Deb: Okay, you finish first.

Kristy: I have a prettier pepper spray, mace. I have…These are little travel boxes. This is where the girls would be all tippy tappy on them. Yeah, if you’re into the ASMR crap. Um, they’re very good for holding things, as you can see like a tide pen, or a mascara, or some trash, or a nail file, or some lip cream, or some, um, perfume, or some more mascara, or nail glue—lots of nail glue—-that’s good for that. Um,

Deb: Good to keep the nail glue contained, I will give you that.

Kristy: Yeah, yeah.

Deb: And I do like having like organizational things.

Kristy: Here’s the thing, I think if I had been prepared for this, knowing this was going to happen, I would have organized this neater. I want you guys to not judge me and know I’m normally much more organized, but I wasn’t prepped for this. However, I will die-I will die on the hill of the vomit bag. That this is the best product ever made.

Deb: And I will say I don’t think anyone’s judging the lack of organization in that bag. They may be critical of some of the contents.

Kristy: Please comment, I’m begging you.

Deb: Oh my goodness.

Kristy: Oh my gosh, please comment, I’m begging you.

Deb: So here was my thought when you told me yesterday we’re going to be talking about influencers. I don’t follow influencers, was my first thought, because I don’t follow people who are influencers just for the sake of influencing. Like that’s all they do.

Kristy: Yeah.

Deb: I have the accounts I like to follow and I have the podcasts I like to listen to and a lot of them have ads and they have their… whatever. That’s the kind of…

Kristy: Yeah.

Deb: and I have 100% bought from companies based on what—if it’s-if it’s a person that is real normally, like I know them to be not just buy this product like,

Kristy: Right. Right, right, right.

Deb: because you can spot that. So, if you’re going to be an influencer, that’s important. Talk good and bad.

Kristy: I-what I’m-

Deb: Even about the product you’re-you’re sharing like, hey this is-this is who it’s great for. This is maybe who it’s not great for. Okay? Well, then I know if I fall into that category, you know what I mean!

Kristy: Mhm. What I’m learning from this conversation is I should be influencing vomit bags cause people can trust me.

Deb: If that’s what you want to take from this conversation, Kristy, I support you.

Kristy: I feel like they’re useful to everybody at some point in their lives!

Deb: You know when you have a kid,

Kristy: No, no, no, no.

Deb: But I’ll tell you when you have a kid literally like throw up in your hands cause you don’t have a vomit bag and then you don’t know what to do,

Kristy: Well, you know what,

Deb: yes, that would have been handy in my car.

Kristy: Oh, I really hope people have not left because this conversation is disgusting… But listen,

Deb: This is literally my worst, like, I have more stories. I’m not going to share them, I will spare you.

Kristy: I do-I do too. But like even just this past weekend my niece left my house and my brother called me the next morning and was like, she threw up on-in the car on the way home and I’m like, I should have sent you home with a vomit bag!

Deb: So, here’s-here’s how you can change your approach.

Kristy: Okay. New approach, Marketing! Marketing.

Deb: New approach. I can see the benefit of having them,

Kristy: Me too!

Deb: I have thought that I should have some in my car,

Kristy: Oh my word, thank you.

Deb: and I don’t, but if you lead with it is going to be the most pleasurable vomiting experience of your life, that’s where people think you’re full of crap.

Kristy: Okay, you know what though? You’ll agree with me. You’ll agree with me.

Deb: So, I agree with, like, share the convenience of it, a situation,

Kristy: Uh-huh.

Deb: where maybe that would have been handy like-like handy, literally caught in hands and like I could have used one. That would be something that would make people think, oh I can see a scenario where I would use this. It’s still going to stink.

Kristy: No it’s not!

Deb: Oh no, because you have the nose thing with the essential oils.

Kristy: Oh my gosh, I can do both! I can do both! My whole brand can be those two things. I’m so excited. Thank you, you’re good at marketing. You are good. Guys, would you like to buy things from me? I could sell things, I think. Gross things? Probably.

Deb: Just depends on how you… What’s your angle? You just got to think about the angle and speak to people.

Kristy: So-So on that note, going back to what influences me, so the-the, um, the… You’re right cause on the pack-my-purse-with-me thing, all this crap that I just buy for no reason it’s because it’s always like, oh that will come in handy. And like that caffeine wipe I’ve never used in my life. It’s probably dry because,

Deb: That actually makes me happy that you haven’t used… I worry about you sometimes with that.

Kristy: But i’ve been like,

Deb: As you drink your rush, I’m guessing.

Kristy: Yes. Yeah, yeah. I’m like, I could use some energy in the form of a body wipe.

Deb: Explain to people who are not from New England and don’t know the Aroma Joe’s, what is a rush?

Kristy: It’s an energy drink. Just like a Celsius or a Red Bull.

Deb: With just like syrupy flavors in it.

Kristy: Mhmm.

Deb: So, it’s all the caffeine and all the sugar.

Kristy: Yeah. No! This is a sugar-free one.

Deb: Oh, I’m sorry, all the chemical sugars.

Kristy: Chemicals. Aspartame.

Deb: It’s 100%,

Kristy: Aspartame.

Deb: Oh, that makes me sadder that you’re drinking that.

Kristy: Oh, it’s killing me faster which I love, so…

Deb: I’ll just drink my-my mushroom coffee. Um, speaking of buying things off the internet.

Kristy: Influence us. I’ve heard about mushroom coffee.

Deb: So, a lot of it tastes like dirt. I don’t recommend it.

Kristy: Okay, cause my friends have given-I’ve tried it from my friends, and I didn’t love it.

Deb: I’ve tried different kinds. They are not all the same. So, the one that I’m drinking today is by Everyday Dose. They are not a sponsor, but I–So here’s the thing, I like coffee,

Kristy: Mhmm.

Deb: it doesn’t always like me, and I always have to do decaf because I get anxiety with too much caffeine.

Kristy: Yeah.

Deb: So, this does have some caffeine, but it’s much lower than what regular coffee is but it’s more than just decaf,

Kristy: Yeah.

Deb: and I need all the brain help I can get.

Kristy: Yes.

Deb: So, it’s got the mushrooms in it and all that stuff, so and this one in particular dissolves well. It’s not gritty, it tastes the closest to coffee. I even had my husband try it, who is not one to drink supplemental type things like that, and he actually was like, huh this isn’t bad.

Kristy: Nice.

Deb: And he’s like been drinking coffee since he was like 13, probably. I don’t know. So, but, I-I can show you the thing, it’s just the same yeti we’ll see.

Kristy: We need to just put the table next to—I’m gonna next episode, I’m gonna move-

Deb: We’ll slide this over and so—so yeah, but that… I don’t know that that is, if it was an influencer thing, like I get a lot of the ads, but I watch them a lot and like I’ll see ads from like different people that are influencing for the brand. So that’s what ends up happening.

Kristy: Okay.

Deb: I’ve tried lots of things where it’s not necessarily someone I follow.

Kristy: Yeah.

Deb: The algorithm knows me.

Kristy: Yes.

Deb: Really well.

Kristy: The algorithm is the influencer.

Deb: The algorithm is the ultimate influencer!

Kristy: Wow, we just created something!

Deb: Look at that. It absolutely is.

Kristy: That was deep.

Deb: Cause I will see like… and then if you look something up outside of Instagram or wherever, your Tik Tok, and you go to the website well now that’s all the ads you’re going to see.

Kristy: Yes.

Deb: And you’re going to see it from a bunch of different people talking about why they love it. I get I’m-I’m getting all the supplements, I’m getting-I’m getting you know bra ads, and like just,

Kristy: Yeah, yeah!

Deb: All-all the things.

Kristy: Yeah!

Deb: Um, there have been a few times I’ve—like influences go awry and it’s not really an influencer,

Kristy: Yes.

Deb: and you get some weird thing from China that takes three weeks to get to you and it’s not at all what they said it was. I have had that happen.

Kristy: Like Jeff.

Deb: A couple of times. Jeff!

Kristy: Is a great example.

Deb: Jeff is a great example.

Kristy: That was a trick.

Deb: Yep.

Kristy: But we love him.

Deb: Yep.

Kristy: We’re grateful he’s here.

Deb: Um, there, so I’m going to show you my bags.

Kristy: Yeah.

Deb: My-my story with my bags, so one ad that popped up several years ago was it’s this company and they do purses. I love a good bag, um and I have too many of them but they’re-they’re not expensive bags. I don’t do expensive bags, because you want to have quantity,

Kristy: Over quality.

Deb: over, no, over brand name!

Kristy: Yes.

Deb: Like I want it to be a decent quality, but I don’t care about brands.

Kristy: Yes.

Deb: And I’m not going to spend stupid money. But, anyway, um I love the ones where they like, they would show—have these videos where they showed—their different purses and like all the things they could fit in them.

Kristy: Yes.

Deb: Show me how big the thing is and what can realistically—because when you look on Amazon you can’t tell! Is this backpack this big?

Kristy: Yeah.

Deb: Or is it this big?

Kristy: So, it’s the video that really sells.

Deb: So the video, yeah, I like the videos, and they show what’s in it. So, there’s one that I was obsessed with. This is not purchased from the company, though, because it was really—it was more than I wanted to spend on the bag. But it’s like a little backpack purse, and I have all sorts of junk in here. I don’t need to share it, um, but I really like the bag. But I was looking I’m like, do I want to spend that much on the bag? I’m like I don’t know, like, let me just see—sorry company—that will not be named if they have a similar bag on Amazon.

Kristy: Yeah.

Deb: So, I search, or if they sell on Amazon, and if I could get a good deal. So, I look on Amazon and I see the this bag and all of the comments were, this is such and such company’s bag.

Kristy: It’s like a dupe.

Deb: Like this is-this is like the exact same bag and it was less than half the price. So I ordered it on Amazon and I’ve been using this for like several years.

Kristy: Yeah, fair.

Deb: I love this bag.

Kristy: Yeah.

Deb: Um, then I still see their ads and I had never bought anything directly from the company until they,

Kristy: But, they wanted you to so they keep,

Deb: they keep,

Kristy: pushing.

Deb: showing and-and I will every now and then click through, look on the website, and like, oh how much is this bag and blah that they’re showing me fits this—all of this stuff—in it and whatever. And I was looking for something nicer for we’re going to Texas to visit one of our clients, uh, next month and I’m like, I want a nicer like carry-on bag for the plane and I saw this one which, yes, it’s very similar—I like a good backpack, I hate things falling off my shoulders,

Kristy: Yeah, same.

Deb: when I’m going to be walking around in a store or through an airport or whatever. So, this is actually from the company because it was on clearance and it was only $17.

Kristy: Nice.

Deb: Buy my bag! And I got even a free strap for letting them email me!

Kristy: Wow.

Deb: So, like and it is, it’s really nice quality.

Kristy: It looks very similar, I can see how-what you’re saying like they look,

Deb: They do. This is definitely more heavy duty. It’s a little bit bigger. More, this is more heavy duty than I would use on like a daily basis.

Kristy: Yeah.

Deb: My computer just barely fits. It’s made for a smaller one, but I can get it to fit. But anyway, it was the videos and like how they showed the item and how they demonstrate—the comfort was just seeing those videos for like weeks at a time watching people with their… like seeing it on and whatever.

Kristy: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Deb: Um, but that’s—I don’t know if that counts.

Kristy: It does!

Deb: I mean, I guess a lot of those videos are influencers. They’re not influencers that I follow necessarily,

Kristy: It’s certainly marketing-marketing psychology too.

Deb: Yeah, um, there was one that came to mind and she’s not someone who started out as an influencer. Um, I don’t know if you’ve ever heard of Shelene Johnson? So, she was originally a, well back when it was called Beach Body, but she was like a workout,

Kristy: Yeah.

Deb: trainer like person. And I had done her workouts for years and-and whatnot, and I had been kind of following like as she left that industry and got into marketing and then it was around the time like I was starting my own business. So I was like following her and she just had a track record of being very real,

Kristy: Yeah.

Deb: sharing good and bad about whatever. And she’s like a wicked researcher, so I knew anything that she was sharing—she had like she’s got ADD too so she’d hyperfocus and like do all the research and give you all the information—good and bad on anything.

Kristy: Mhmm.

Deb: So then once I got to know like how she approaches things that she is going to promote um I knew that like stuff she’s saying is good.

Kristy: Yeah.

Deb: Pretty…

Kristy: Reliable?

Deb: Reliable. That it’s going to be decent. So if she’s recommended, if she-if I’m looking for something—a certain type of thing, a certain type of supplement, a certain type of whatever—I might think like, oh what was it that she recommended on her podcast like I’m going to check that one out. And I have tried some of the stuff she’s recommended.

Kristy: And liked it?

Deb: Yeah.

Kristy: Good.

Deb: Yeah, it was exactly what-what she said.

Kristy: Well, and I think that’s a good point is like if-if at that point you try stuff and it ends up not being reliable, that person loses credibility.

Deb: Absolutely. So, now you’re going to question everything that they recommend.

Kristy: Everything. And you’re going to stop listening to the podcast. You’re definitely not going to buy from them again. And so that’s kind of the careful line for people who are doing that kind of thing.

Deb: Right.

Kristy: You can’t just be like this, this, this, this, this, and this. Because people will catch on,

Deb: Yeah.

Kristy: and lose trust and you will lose a following.

Deb: For sure. And I have even seen, in her example, like when she finds a product that’s better than something she’s previously, she’ll share that too.

Kristy: Oh, good!

Deb: Like this is what, she’s, it’s like, and maybe I don’t-I don’t listen to her as regularly now but I’ll be like, oh she’s promoting this brand. She used to promote that brand.

Kristy: Yeah.

Deb: So, there was never a falling out. There was never a problem, but it’s like,

Kristy: You, well, you discover something better. You discover something better.

Deb: So, she’ll share that too.

Kristy: We all do.

Deb: Even though she’s promoted,

Kristy: You upgrade.

Deb: one of their,

Kristy: Yep.

Deb: Yeah.

Kristy: That’s cool.

Deb: Um, yeah, so I feel like-

Kristy: Yeah, no, I, that’s similar to how I feel, like I shop online too. I think the only times I’ve gotten I’ve boughten… I have boughten… bought?

Deb: Bought.

Kristy: I’ve bought-I’ve boughten so many!

Deb: That sentence is weird no matter which way you say it.

Kristy: I’m not the word—I’m not the word good person. So, uh I have purchased, I have purchased.

Deb: That’s better.

Kristy: I have purchased so many things off the Tik Tok shop, and I feel like probably three quarters of them have been good,

Deb: Yeah?

Kristy: buys. But I have noticed about myself, I’m quick on the draw to see something and be like I want that, and I have to slow myself down and be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I am easily influenced, marketing works really good on me. I see something and someone’s just like, this changed my life, transformed my whole body and like,

Deb: Buy, buy, buy now!

Kristy: fixed my whole family, I just-it just fixed my life. And I’m just like,

Deb: This was the best vomiting experience I have ever had.

Kristy: And I’m like, sold! Buy now. Buy. now. I would work on myself, and so I have to take a step back and be like, hang on.

Deb: You know, it’s funny, the times that I’ve been quick on the draw are the times I get stuff like, this isn’t what I wanted. Like, what is this garbage?

Kristy: I have to add to cart and walk away and come back later.

Deb: Yep.

Kristy: With anything.

Deb: Yep, same.

Kristy: It doesn’t matter if it’s Amazon, it doesn’t matter if it’s Tik Tok, doesn’t matter if it’s Temu. It doesn’t-It does not matter where I am, I have to add to cart and come back later. And, um, one of the reasons I do that is simply because of a cart abandonment. I hope that they send me a coupon or something. By the way, did you know that works? Cart abandonment is a thing.

Deb: It sure does.

Kristy: And if you walk away from your cart often times companies will send you coupons because they really want you to go through with the sale. That’s just a side note, but anyway, um,

Deb: My problem is that I don’t necessarily walk away from the cart, I keep it in a tab open on whatever device I found it.

Kristy: Ohhhhhh.

Deb: So, then I have like 100 tabs with stuff in carts and it’s, and then it’s like, oh it’s a good thing I didn’t pull the trigger on all of this because I wouldn’t be able to pay my mortgage this month if I had.

Kristy: Yeah. Right?!

Deb: Like, slow your roll.

Kristy: Yeah, well, and often times I’ll find, like you said, a better-a better deal. Like sometimes I will even forget to do that, I will just be like I want this right now and I’m like, hang on, maybe it is cheaper at Walmart. Maybe it is cheaper on Amazon. Maybe it is cheaper somewhere else, like or I can just go physically in person go get it, like, it just and I don’t—maybe–-I don’t need it at all or like you said I don’t need the name brand, I can go find something that’s a little different but, um, when it comes to influencing specifically like sometimes there’s like things that I can find that are practical for my life but there’s like one girl I follow on—I do, she does her like kind of get-ready-with-me-in-the-morning thing and I just like it’s very like comfort videos to watch. She’ll just do her whole get out of bed, and go put on her makeup, and her shower, and her make her breakfast thing,

Deb: That would drive me crazy.

Kristy: getting ready for work. To film or to watch?

Deb: To watch.

Kristy: It’s very like aesthetic and just like, I don’t know, it, you know, what it does in my brain is it helps me be like, this is how I should be romanticizing my mornings instead of like when I wake up I want to just like die. Like I wake up and I’m just like and I want to get ready for the day. Like my first thoughts in the morning are like, okay I just need to get up to my coffee machine. That’s like my first step. Like and instead like those types of videos help me to be like, I just need to enjoy my morning slowly I just need to like enjoy putting on my skin care. And like it just puts it into a little bit happier place in my brain.

Deb: None of them have kids, do they?

Kristy: Uh… I don’t know.

Deb: Because your morning changes very much so when that when that happens.

Kristy: Yes, that’s a good point.

Deb: Cause that’s now happening at like 5 in the morning so that you can beat the kids.

Kristy: Right.

Deb: Now, granted, I have a 13-year-old now so there’s,

Kristy: Not as-

Deb: no disruptions in the morning, but she was always an early riser when she was little And it’s like, and I find, like, I-this is-this is how I wake up. I wake up and I find what podcast am I going to listen to,

Kristy: Right.

Deb: because I have to be productive with my time,

Kristy: Right.

Deb: while I make my coffee and wake myself up, which isn’t necessarily a positive thing. Maybe it is, maybe it isn’t, I don’t know.

Kristy: But that’s what works.

Deb: But that’s what I do. So, just watching someone just like,

Kristy: No, no, no. That’s not when I watch it, but it’s not when-

Deb: No, but watching someone like that—that’s how they wake up—that would annoy me, like, oh, get going! Do something!

Kristy: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I hear what you’re saying. But those—but bec–-but-but in those videos there is a lot of product placement. So, for instance, like, oh I love that outfit she’s getting dressed in today. I want that. And, um,

Deb: Ohhhhh.

Kristy: like it gives me ideas for office outfits or whatever. Um, even if I don’t buy the exact outfit she’s wearing it’s like, oh, that’s how I could pair like those shoes with that-with pants like that, with a sweater like that for work or something instead of just like Pinterest boarding outfits or something.

Deb: Right.

Kristy: And so there’s been a couple times where I have bought the exact shirt she’s wearing,

Deb: Oh, that’s so funny.

Kristy: Uh, and hated it, and regretted it. I’m like, she does not have the same body as me. Uh,

Deb: She must be a foot taller than–

Kristy: Correct. I’m like, she’s so much taller than me, and this looks stupid on me, and I wore it one time and hated it. So, but, then there’s been a couple times when I have bought things that I’m like, yes! This worked out really good. Um, so, you know, there’s pros and cons to watching influencers.

Deb: It is interesting though because that just makes me think like there’s so many there’s people that you could find influencers in any genre or what for any—like you look at that and it’s like, oh this is helping me to like try to be more mindful with my mornings, and oh I really like that outfit.

Kristy: Yes.

Deb: Meanwhile, I’m watching like videos on homeschoolers talking about curriculums in the morning and they’re like promoting whatever and giving me ideas. Like it’s like you’re watching things that are relative to where you’re at.

Kristy: Yes.

Deb: You know?

Kristy: Yes.

Deb: So, it’s like how your influence might be different given what stage you’re in or,

Kristy: Right. Like Bill’s-Bill’s probably on influency ones about traveling or-

Deb: I see nothing about traveling, because I don’t go anywhere.

Kristy: Yeah, and so I’m not going to-I’m not-I’m not big into that. So I’m not going to watch those or you know parenting videos or like whatever it is.

Deb: Yeah.

Kristy: And that might prompt you to buy something whatever.

Deb: Yeah. Some brain supplement for all the ADHD videos that you watch.

Kristy: Right.

Deb: Or the perimenopausal videos.

Kristy: Exactly, exactly.

Deb: Or the homeschooling curriculum.

Kristy: Exactly.

Deb: Yeah, it’s like whatever you’re looking at elsewhere that’s what you…

Kristy: Yes.

Deb: The algorithm is the influencer. That’s-That’s the bottom line.

Kristy: Right? That’s what it is. And right now I’m—my influencer algorithm is all about like, uh, workout-y things, like, I can’t get away from the stair steppers like, buy at home stairsteppers! I already have one, I already have one.

Deb: Like just a step like this, um, or is it the machine?

Kristy: it’s like a tiny little, um, elliptical. I already have one, it was like 50 bucks, and I love it, but I already have one of those, I already have a walking pad, and I use them both like,

Deb: I just got a walking pad.

Kristy: but I’m still there-there’s a new like elliptical one that has like the arm things and it folds up like a ladder and you just put it against the wall and I’m like, maybe I need that one too… like-like I don’t, I already have one but it keeps appearing.

Deb: Are you old enough to remember when it was all about infomercials?

Kristy: Yes.

Deb: Because I can tell you before the social media influencing,

Kristy: Yes.

Deb: I don’t even know how many things I bought off infomercials. I was an infomercial junkie. Growing up my mom was a QVC junkie. Like it-it’s just-it’s the same thing, just in a different format. Now, it’s now it’s right here in our pocket, all day long. Like-

Kristy: Well, and the marketing, I remember being a kid and watching them and like the marketing of it was like, you have buy now and there’s a there was a counter on the screen that was like you have two minutes.

Deb: And guess what? If you act now you get a second set for free!

Kristy: Yes~. You have to act now.

Deb: They’re just giving this stuff away!

Kristy: You have to act now!

Deb: It’s amazing.

Kristy: And it was-it was panic inducing.

Deb: I had a Total Gym, that was a big one. I think was it Chuck Norris that was the the sponsor of the Total Gym too. I-I’m pro—I could be wrong I don’t remember—I had one of those like in my 20s. Like all sorts of stuff I didn’t have space for.

Kristy: All the laundry things that you could get to completely fix your laundry.

Deb: I was always buying the workout stuff. That was my thing then.

Kristy: Yeah. Everything for your kitchen,

Deb: I would get.

Kristy: pots and pans and knives and-

Deb: Yep. What about like the home parties? The Tupperware parties.

Kristy: Oh my word.

Deb: All that stuff, I had all those parties. We did all that stuff too.

Kristy: Yep.

Deb: Yep. All influencers.

Kristy: Yeah. It’s just a different way of influencing now, because it’s all right on our phone and you just, your credit card’s right there. You just literally buy now.

Deb: I know. You don’t even have to get up and get your wallet.

Kristy: And it’s like you don’t have to enter your shipping address. It’s just like literally,

Deb: Oh, look it remembers!

Kristy: buy now. Yeah. That makes it as easy as possible so that you will just purchase, purchase, purchase.

Deb: Right.

Kristy: And so I think for like, on the end of if you’re selling or if you are the consumer, you really have to like, on a consumer end, slow down.

Deb: Slow your roll.

Kristy: On the if you want to be an influencer brand, a lot of, uh, strategy on how you market it but,

Deb: Be real.

Kristy: Be real!

Deb: Be real when you’re marketing it.

Kristy: I do want to go back to say, I am being real, that it’s the best puking experience of your life. Listen, what I didn’t say-what I did not say is that puking is enjoyable. What I said was if you must, it is the best puking experience of your life.

Deb: I guess if you’re going for shock value to get people’s attention…

Kristy: I am all about shock value. That’s my whole, that is Kristy Billingsley’s whole brand. I am all about shock value.

Deb: Yeah, I’m not. I’m boring. I’m mom boring. But, I was always mom boring like before I was a mom…

Kristy: Before you were a mom, Deb was five years old and mom boring.

Deb: I was! It was sad. But we’re not going to unpack childhood trauma on this episode.

Kristy: Oh my word. Oh my word. So if you had to influence something, what would it be?

Deb: Oh my goodness, I don’t… I don’t know.

Kristy: Or like, or like genre of product if not a specific product.

Deb: Well, clearly I like bags.

Kristy: Yeah. Um, you like cups.

Deb: I do. Yeah, but I get cheap ones like this.

Kristy: Yeah.

Deb: Kids at the dance studio—so I teach dance as well—Um, they’re like, oh you have a Stanley? No, I don’t have a Stanley, I’m not spending $50 on a water bottle. I have a $7 Temu-

Kristy: But that’s exactly why by influencing it might be better! It’s like, are you sick of spending your life savings on a cup? Buy this!

Deb: I’m all for finding a good deal.

Kristy: You should not have to give away your hard-earned money. Instead, buy this cup in bulk, every color, and now you’ve made 10 sales.

Deb: I think what I would be an influencer of would depend on what my latest hyperfixation was at the moment.

Kristy: Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Deb: Like, I’ll tell you what I’m drinking in this cup. In addition to my-my mushroom coffee cup, this cup I started… I have a friend who I went over to her house and she’s like, would you like some coffee or some tea? I’m like, I would love some tea. Expecting her to have a couple varieties of tea. She opens to like a cabinet—she’s got like loose leaf tees in mason jars all perfectly labeled. How are you feeling? What do you need? Like, um, I don’t even know where to start. She’s like, well let’s see we’ll give you a little bit of this and a little bit of this, and she mixed me up this like custom tea and it was delicious! And I’m like, and everything is good for something! Hibiscus, and lemon balm, and,

Kristy: Wow.

Deb: holy basil, and all this stuff that I’ve always like had an interest in. I’m like this just feels like too much and I don’t have the brain power for this right now. Well I have been ordering teas on Amazon…

Kristy: Really?

Deb: My friend influenced me…

Kristy: Wow.

Deb: I actually—I’ll have to send you a picture—I have a picture of my cabinet.

Kristy: Ooo, we’ll put it on the screen.

Deb: We’ll put it on the screen. My cabinet with my little mason jars. I don’t have as much space to devote to it as she does, so literally—I’ll tell you a funny story—I was making myself some tea the other day and I’m like mixing stuff up based, like, I have a blend that I’ve been liking and my husband’s watching me like, scoop of this thing-thing of leaves, this thing of leaves, he’s like, what are you a witch?

Kristy: You’re becoming a little witch.

Deb: I’m like, no like it’s helping like, and I do find like because the stuff I’m using is to kind of keep anxiety at bay, help with focus, all things that I’m like struggling with lately, and I’m noticing the difference. So I’m like,

Kristy: Wow. Okay.

Deb: maybe not today, because again 3:30 a.m. wake up time for no good reason…

Kristy: Yeah.

Deb: But,

Kristy: You’re on your way.

Deb: But, yeah, so what I would—see, have I just influenced you,

Kristy: Yeah.

Deb: to go on Amazon and look up organic looseleaf tees? You can chat GPT what teas are good for what things so you can know what you need.

Kristy: Yeah.

Deb: And-

Kristy: You know what? If these people don’t walk away,

Deb: Seriously.

Kristy: with some kind of influence from this episode, I’ll be furious.

Deb: I would-

Kristy: And then we’re going to pick which thing-

Deb: What would you like us to influence on?

Kristy: Yeah, what would you like us to sponsor? What do you think that-what do you think we are the most likely to earn income from for this podcast?

Deb: I would love to see.

Kristy: Because-

Deb: Kristy’s selling faux fur. We should,

Kristy: Yeah!

Deb: I feel like we should almost have like a-we should just go for multiple things and see which which does the best. Or put up a poll. Let’s put up a poll.

I’m putting up a poll on Spotify, I think, uh, for this episode. Puke bags or tea?

Deb: Get the tea so that you don’t need the puke bag in the first place. Buy both, but the hope is that maybe you won’t-

Kristy: I want them to experience, I want them to experience,

Deb: I would be happy to have one of those available, I would love to never experience it.

Kristy: Have to use it

Deb: I have an issue with that.

Kristy: You’re going to call me someday,

Deb: And I have a story that I’ll tell you off camera so I won’t-

Kristy: Someone’s going to have to have used it in your car and you are going to be thanking me.

Deb: Yes. The car is the worst. That’s where this happened.

Kristy: Mhm.

Deb: In the car like…

Kristy: I’m so sorry to our audience,

Deb: Sorry

Kristy: for subjecting all of you to this.

Deb: I’m even saving-I’m saving the really bad story. I’m not even-

Kristy: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Deb: We shouldn’t have come back around to that. Be real. Be real. That’s what we are here on The Freedive Podcast.

Kristy: That is exactly what we are on The Freedive Podcast. And if you’re still here we love you so much. So,

Deb: We love you.

Kristy: I feel like we’ve pretty much wrapped,

Deb: Yes.

Kristy: this all up.

Deb: Yes. This was probably long. Sorry about that.

Kristy: I love, so I love that, you’ve been here. I—please—this more often.

Deb: Yes, this is fun. I feel like I haven’t gotten here,

Kristy: I know

Deb: much lately. It’s all the car drama and just everything.

Kristy: Stupid car. Stupid drama. It’s always drama.

Deb: It’s always drama.

Kristy: Life is just… This is why we’re here. This is safe space, where we can come and laugh,

Deb: And silliness.

Kristy: and empty our bags.

Deb: Yeah.

Kristy: And emotionally supportive lint rollers, keep coming back for that.

Deb: Next time, we’ll be more prepared with all the stuff we’ve purchased online.

Kristy: Yeah. Yeah, we should do a, oh, oh!

Deb: I have more things with me that-

Kristy: Oh, I have one more thing and I hope that, um, there’s enough time cause I didn’t set my timer. Okay, we’re new-new quick segment, um, that we’ve decided. This is a surprise for Deb that she doesn’t know about.

Deb: Oh my goodness.

Kristy: So, we’re going to start a new game every episode,

Deb: Uhhhh.

Kristy: and it’s going to be Get to Know the Team Members~! So, we’re gonna ask Deb a question to guess the team member with this question.

Deb: So, I have to guess the team member.

Kristy: Guess the team member. I’m going to give you a question and you have to guess who this is about. Ready?

Deb: Okay.

Kristy: And the audience will learn in the process.

Deb: Okay.

Kristy: Okay. And I feel like you’re going to know the answer to this one.

Deb: Okay.

Kristy: Okay.

Deb: We’ll see…

Kristy: Who on the team—which member of the team has a twin?

Deb: I know this but I’m going through the list of people… Can we cut the pause as I look at the list of names, because I’m–-I know that I know but, maybe, I don’t know. Okay, let me see… Manage… Okay, let’s see.

Kristy: We’re letting her cheat.

Deb: Well, it’s just so I remember names. Oh, oh. I know. See, I just… Christina.

Kristy: This was a trick question.

Deb: Oh my goodness.

Kristy: Because that, Christina is correct, but there’s actually another answer.

Deb: There is another answer… Is it Amanda?

Kristy: Okay, so, so, Christina and Amanda are twins. They’re sisters that work here. There is another answer.

Deb: There’s another per… Oh yes! Mark!

Kristy: Mark is also a twin.

Deb: That’s why I’m like I know that this has come up in several conversations.

Kristy: So there’s-So there’s actually three, technically.

Deb: Yes.

Kristy: Cause Christina and Amanda are twin sisters,

Deb: Yes.

Kristy: and then Mark is also a twin.

Deb: Yes I was literally going through like, who’s physically here right now, and I’m like it’s no one that’s here, and then… Yeah.

Kristy: Yeah.

Deb: Like…

Kristy: Good job! You got it! So, yeah, we’re going to start doing this as an end of podcast game.

Deb: I like that you weren’t asking anything about me.

Kristy: No. Okay, so, no but we’re going to need-we’re going to need Deb facts to use on other people.

Deb: Okay.

Kristy: Um and we’re going to end the podcast with little,

Deb: Okay!

Kristy: guess the team member.

Deb: I like that.

Kristy: Um, yeah, so we’re going to need little Deb facts to use on other people. Oh the camera’s dying…

Deb: Oh.

Kristy: So, this happened last time.

Deb: Awe.

Kristy: Okay, so we’re going to say goodbye now.

Deb: So, we’re going to end here. Bye, everybody!

Kristy: Love you so much.

Deb: Love you.